They're basically twice the cost of T16K and it's 50/50 getting a good one with no problems or having a ton of problems. Logitech is pretty hit or miss I wouldn't recommend them based on personal experience (I had two X56 that both became nearly un-usable after 3-6 months) but other people seem? to have had better luck. Honestly with HOTAS though it's even worse (in my opinion). Some people get by with a thumbstick for strafing but honestly the dual sticks just feels so much better. Honestly I really recommend HOSAS or HOTASAS especially for landing. I own Two Virpil WarBRD Bases w/ Constellation Deltas (Have alphas on preorder) and a Virpil Throttle and I _rarely_ use the throttle for SC.
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